re: DENT ETF...I Do NOT wish to moderate this message board it was selected by mistake, please remove me.

HS DENT

you should go back being a moderator there.... we don't want a doom and gloom moderator who's aim is to destroy the company...

BOB,


Somehow I was REMOVED as a Moderator on HDVY board? Look who is in the mod now, I was now contacted at all.... you may want to send a IHUB MOD a note on that....

It is necessary for me to resign as moderator and see no reason this message board should even need my assistance as it was poorly give as I see it. I should have done far more than reap the financial benefits that I have had over the years.

I can be reached at "techstockbob@gmail.com" for any personal or inside instructions/information. I had darken my email address as my alias will be changing soon and want a few to contact me if they so wish, Thanx, Bob

No problem, I just sent you a PM.EOM

Hi ! I thought you guys might want to comment on this guys take on Harry S. Dent. Seems a little misinformed.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=53768952

Market is droping I hope we can move back up to 10500 today if not our time may be really short as to the next crask and dunk time. If we do crash and if it is really that time I will not be able to make even a dime on my last stock play which has been HDVY for many years now. Harry had warned me of this crash to come more than 5 years ago. I had prayed that HDVY would have the massive news by now because if this is the crash and dunk time in the market we will not see a dimes profit in HDVY nor the market for many many years ahead of us. When this time comes I will no longer post here in the IHUB messagery domain!.

Harry Dent was just talking that we have had a 500 point drop in the market between a week a go plus it seem or it has been indicated that it is possibleto have another 400-500 ponit drop that could indicate the coming crash. No doubt we will see shortly. I am playing the upside of a stock here so I do not want to hear anything about any damn market crash.

Individual Investors

It appears we had a major top put in back in April, confirmed by the recent drop below major
support levels on the S&P 500 and the Dow.. This is when you must be willing to make
substantial changes to your holdings, becoming much more conservative, in order to protect your
assets and set yourself up for the opportunities ahead. The downturn is not over, it is intensifying.
The government chose more stimulus and debt instead of the necessary medicine of sudden,
massive debt restructuring. We are now in a period where, at every level - personal, family,
business, political, etc. - we must be more flexible in how we adapt to new situations and the scope
of the changes we are willing to make. Watch for critical updates in the weeks ahead as the release
of 2nd quarter GDP gets closer. Consider shorting the markets when the time comes.

Investment Advisors
Begin the process of moving your clients to a conservative approach and even perhaps a short
position. Shed the old style of buy and hold and embrace a more pragmatic, flexible approach to
investing so that you can maintain and grow your clients' wealth in the weeks and years ahead.
Don't believe the hype of recovery, the recession is still here and is gaining strength. Review the
Consumer Metrics data for real-time analysis on where consumers are, which drives 70% of GDP.
This is something you did NOT learn in econ 101 or get out of your B/D training sessions.

Real Estate
Home sales after the end of the tax credit showed the true colors of the housing market - it's awful.
It will get worse. Defaults are high, but foreclosures have stalled out because banks are at a loss
as to what should be done with all of them. At some point, the system will have to capitulate and
recognize the massive losses and write-offs. In the meantime, the high end of the spectrum is
feeling the most pain with jumbo loans requiring 40% down and significantly higher interest rates.
Sell what you can now, in the summer of 2010, and look for great buys especially between late
2012 and early 2013.

Business Owners
Flexibility and adaptation is everything. Continue to cut capital expenditures and unnecessary
overheads. Focus only on short term investments that increase sales or cut costs. Consumer
Metrics data shows the continued deterioration in economic activity, and a recent survey revealed
that small businesses aren't borrowing because they either don't need the loans because of slow
sales or they already are carrying too much debt. Secure, but don't use, credit if you can, and
hold out for better opportunities to expand market share in the tough times ahead.

Hello dakota, yes I just got word yesterday about the pending economy change that I have ben regreting for almost 7 years. It will happen as all that you have seen and felt good and bad in the past 7 years has been known. I told a few on RB back in 2003-2005 what was to come but they just looked at it as a gloom and doom aproach instead of using the information and the past economy happenings for tools. It will the governments job to try a stop the mess that is coming but we knew it could not be but delayed. We may have at the most until December but that is only under the strangest circumstances. We knew 12-18 months prior any huge plus or negatives in the market. The recent tape of July 13th 2010 is to wake any clients up that have moved too far from the saftey net. I of course stayed close would means no chance for me to lose money regardless what tmbles down. It is 11am here and I just got up so let me grab a cup of coffee. Sure I will be back and can be found easy enough provided the right people know what aliase I'm using.

Hi "Tech",
Tracked you down and forwarded info to C. Thanks. I am currently unpaid so I can't PM but got your message. Actually had been thinking of contacting you about the very subject.

DD

HS Dent July 13, 2010 video release.

http://www.hsdent.com/july2010update/

It is no doubt I know from my anyalyst what the economy will bring but only a few here or on RB remember what I had said about the economy way back in 2003-2005. With this I never wish to scare anyone but is a wise notion to used much of the information to steer clear of losing your dollars. Today is probably the future high point of tomorrow which tomorrow mean in 2020-23. Again do not fear what must happen just understand it and move to positions of (POSITIVE)garantees that you will ATLEAST NOT LOSE A NICKLE durring this time coming. Being in stocks of course is about as risky as it comes. next 30 years at minimum. India will be the play ahead not our market but here and now will make many rich by playing shorts on small - large cap stock as as easy as in the rise in 1999-2000. I am not talking penny stocks at all as said small to large cap stocks and short them dearly. Around 2012 will be the point to buy fantastic realestate deals and around this point will be the best stock purchases ever but know those stocks will not fly as high as they one did but know the ground floor with some profit and real earnings will come back durring this time. Stocks will no longer move on fluff but only real earnings.

Don't buy real estate as it is far too early. We are talking about the worst time in our economy to be in 2012 sometime so buying into real estate is just too early. Later on when you do buy do not buy it for the reasons of making a big killing as that market is never coming back and yes me words are strong and clear.

We have the dollar that looks like it is peaking short term and of course the Euro is just headed in the wrong direction but we tried to tell people. Ag gold seems to have peaked oil will be a good hedge against the MidEast crises that will be so shortly.

What you will see is the 10 year Treasure bond move to around 4.6% at leasts by years end if not prior which will signal the banks that housing is done and NOT coming back. Deep depression not recession folks and of course debt deleveraging cycle.

Again all these posts are warning for you so you adjust to the market not fear anything but if you don't understand the depth I'm talking or what I am talking about you will end up in fear and no wheres to turn. Use your tools investors and start understanding and using them now. You should already have all your income and potiential protected and in guaranteed places prior to this next melt down NOT RECESSION!!!

...This is getting old, I sleep one night then the next up all night long then next morning I'm down 18, 24, or 32 hours. Have no clue but I do for the market and it isn't good. I'm afraid it is true this thim that we are running out of time and the second big crash will be upon us none too soon. We did good actually because I thought the big one would hit in 2010? wait a minute I am right except people will be in denial and of course somewhere in between I will stop posting but until then what the heck. I can't take credit but have been warning people for almost 7 years to be on the look out for the cyclone that will tear our economy almost apart. Damn those feds think they can stop what is coming by patchin things up well folks we have little time left to make the money on the positive side of some stocks. Actually it is the Presidents job to try to curb the heavy deflation that is coming. Yes we are in it now but not in a heavy duty way yet. Wow unreal China is in and headed for double digit inflation and we are on the oposite side and yes the Euro will dump out yet why argue with people back 4-5 years ago, yes we knew this back then.

to be continued..............hey I'm having fun...hey run the movie link and don't be afraid and it is to throw a negative slant it is for people to adjust and learn to used their tools in our economy. You must understand money is always made on both sides of a stock in other words on both sides of our economy but be smart and be prepared with tools to work both sides of our economy.

....btw I am not involved in Harry's ETF thingy nor is any of my money in that fund.

Harry S. Dent, try to help a few as I have tried too!

Pimco Sees Risk of Deflation
By Charles Sizemore· April 14, 2010

The manager of one of the biggest and most successful inflation-protected bond funds does not see inflation; he sees deflation.

If there was ever an investor that had every incentive to forecast inflation, it would be Mihir Worah, the manager of the Pimco Real Return Fund and the largest holder of inflation-protected bonds in the world. As the expression goes, when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Worah’s investment mandate is to protect his investors from inflation, so following the analogy, he should see inflation nails that need hammering around every corner.

But, as Bloomberg reported this morning,

Pimco is “underweight” inflation-linked bonds in portfolios that focus on the debt, Worah wrote in a report on Pimco’s Web site…. “There is a near-term risk of flipping to deflation given our view that developed economies have not fully healed and consumers are not yet ready to stand on their own two feet,” wrote Worah, a managing director based at Pimco’s Newport Beach, California, headquarters.

Worah echoes BlackRock Inc., the world’s biggest money manager with $3.35 trillion in assets, which said it is becoming bullish on Treasuries because “there isn’t inflation in the pipeline.” See article.

We’re starting to see some intelligent minds move to our camp in the inflation/deflation debate. Our view remains clear — there IS no inflation right now. We continue to see mild, Japan-style deflation as the most likely outcome of the credit crisis and deleveraging.

Charles Sizemore, CFA
Co-author of the recently-published Boom or Bust: Understanding and Profiting from a Changing Consumer Economy

In time I will edit this sticky but not today 3-2-2010

TechStockBob is a paid member to HS Dent Economic Newscast. I do not recieve monies or benefits by this foundation nor ever make direct contact with them other than one of their Financial Advisors here in my state and HSDent has advisors in just about all 50 states. My personal interests here is sharing and learning what is called Demographics, the study of people and their habits through out life and within many generations, basically! I must also say that even though I do not benefit by pay or any typical means I have a great amount of money totally guaranteed and invested through one of the foundations representitives. This in no way am I trying to produce sales for them in any event but I have always been concerned (since I'm older now) in saying a few words to others that are older that they must not ever lose the hard earned money that they have earned throughout life. I do subscribe to this foundation so I know what in the world is happening even by each day at times. Anyone who has money placed in a bank or in hands of another had always better know prior what in the heck is going on with their money, what gurantees come with it, how to always make sure you never lose sight or gained interest on your money. One of the other strongest areas of thought would be how to make sure the company you deal with won't run out of money or go bankrupt! When we get to be a certain age much of this will ring a bell and ring it loudly. We simply must not lose any money period. So in short there are many foundations and plans out there for individuals to use or do and I'm not here to recommend anything except the thought for many to open up and to start to learn Demongraphics and why this area is so powerful when it comes to your finances, money, my future and of course my childrens future. What is it that would make anyone what to sit down and study this area? Well, I also have a strong interest in keeping the money I earned through life and don't intend on giving it all away. So in order to keep it and even help make it grow I must learn many things that may come into play in our future. So the study of people - demographic basically and with other tools such as charts of past and present allow one to easily see ahead. This advantage may keep a person in money or simply strip him of everything he has ever earned. From this we learn that the world is not fair nor does it care but certain economics follow forth and many can gain the information ahead of another and make some serious money.

The Great State Shakedown Begins…Looking For Revenue In All The Wrong Places
March 1st, 2010 by Rodney Johnson


With March of 2010 upon us, many state legislatures are starting their sessions. Job one will be to figure out how to close the current budget gap. Job two will be to develop a semblence of a credible budget for 2010-2011 budget year, which begins for most on July 1st.

With traditional revenue sources dropping, state governments are in a quandry of their own making. For decades they have gone along the politically easy path of continuing to promise and secure employment contracts for all levels of state workers. Now that tax receipts ain’t what they used to be, these contracts (including pension benefits, healthcare, etc.) are crippling. So, what to do? Play hardball with the unions? Not so fast. There is another way.

States have raised fees at an extraordinary rate (in the state of FL the tax on cigarettes increased by $1 per pack last year), even though this approach is most difficult on the lowest income earners. Now states are beginning to take another look at taxing non-profits, pointing out that these organizations get the benefit if services (Fire, Police, Streetlights, etc.) without paying. While that is true, the point of a non-profit is to provide services in the community that otherwise would not be available or would only be available at an increased cost to users. Should non-profits pay some sort of tax? I can’t say that I know the answer, but a piecemeal approach doesn’t strike me as appropriate.

On another front, expect state legislatures to take another run at taxing internet transactions. The sales tax lost to internet transactions is staggering, and definitely impacts the bottom line of taxing authorities. The old argument of “It’s too hard to figure out who should pay what,” doesn’t hold water anymore either, as many retailers who have mulitple places of business in different states have already figured this out.

My point is that as these legislative seasons get underway, look closely at what gets passed in the name of a balanced budget. It will be much more about raising revenue than attacking the real problem - spending. And grab hold of your wallet. If you don’t, they will.

Check this out, JAN 6, 2010 "Harry Dent" opens the "New York Stock Exchange"!

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More about meeting Mr. Harry S. Dent

Book Tour - Meet Harry Dent Author of The Great Depression Ahead
(NY Times Best Seller)

http://www.hsdent.com/ny_times_bestseller_the_great_depression_ahead_book_tour/

It is a fact that I was told by the "H S Dent Foundation" that the result of all we have seen such as the housing market rise and fall, the economy plus the uneployment, well he told us 5 plus years ago. Basically 12 to 18 months prior warning however, he is not correct in everything but enough to keep me smiling a long time.

Now about Harry's new fund I have been watching. This fund has been staying very stable to date which is really good. It is nice to make money but as long as you lose nothing that is just fine during bad times.

New yearly internet access charges to access the H.S.Dent foundation is $350.00

Feel free to visit the "HS DENT" Foundation website as listed below....

http://www.hsdent.com/

DENT, recently trading at $19.76 eom

HS Dent, long term shall be something to see.

Will DENT Dent ETFs’ Low-Cost Image?
By Heather Bell
The Dent Tactical ETF, the first offering from AdvisorShares, is now out. And honestly, I just don’t know how to size it up.

Skepticism definitely plays into the mix when considering this new exchange-traded fund (NYSE: DENT).

Ron Rowland has written a recent Seeking Alpha column in which he projects that the ETF will make his April 2010 ETF Deathwatch list. He makes some very interesting and valid points. (You can also see related IU.com stories on DENT's costs and a recent Q&A with Dent about his investment strategies here and here.)

My concern I share with Rowland is with the fund's expense ratio – 1.56 percent before the waiver, and 1.5 percent after.

That’s A LOT of basis points, and it seems to undermine the very foundation of what an ETF is supposed to be all about. According to the Investment Company Institute, the average expense for equity mutual funds in 2008 was 0.99 percent.

That study however, excluded funds of funds, which would be more comparable with DENT.

But there are a bunch of ETFs of ETFs out there following index strategies, and they don’t come close to the costs of DENT.

PowerShares charges 79 basis points, with no waiver, for its funds of funds based on indexes from New Frontier Advisors. Meanwhile, the ones offered by iShares all charge 35 basis points or less, after a 14-basis-point waiver.

Granted, these are still index-based funds, and they are primarily invested in other “in-house” ETFs, but it’s hard not to flinch when you compare those prices with DENT’s.

A key appeal of ETFs has always been that they are cheaper than actively managed mutual funds and many – if not most – index mutual funds.

But until recently, almost all of the funds have managed to keep their expense ratios below 1 percent, which I consider a pretty important barrier. Off the top of my head, the MacroShares are the only ones I can think of that have definitively burst through the 1 percent ceiling, and they are not structured like traditional ETFs.

Basically, DENT isn’t even in the same ballpark as your average ETF in terms of expenses. And I can’t help but wonder if it’s setting a bad precedent—opening the floodgates, as it were—especially with regards to actively managed funds.

To date, actively managed ETFs from PowerShares and Grail Advisors have kept costs at 80 basis points or below. But the AdvisorShares fund nearly doubles that.

So the launch of DENT raises a bunch of questions.

The key one for the fund itself is: Will investors be interested?
But also: Will it outperform? Will it have sufficient liquidity?
And most importantly for ETFs: Will it set the trend for future fees?


http://seekingalpha.com/article/162608-will-dent-dent-etfs-low-cost-image?source=email

TREND1,

why not add volume so we can see if it gains any popularity?

Eventually, without volume it will probably be shut down, as there will be no/little profit for managers.

TREND1,

I see that TREND1 ETF is not in that list (GGGGGGGG).

DENT_30

DENT_30_917

Harry Dent: India a Better Long-Term Bet than China 9 comments

http://seekingalpha.com/article/161822-harry-dent-india-a-better-long-term-bet-than-china?source=email

HOG
I have done some thing like this 2 times before.
(1) Value Line started a find using the Value Line system.
(2) Investors Business daily was followed by a fund using their system. Bob Brinker pointed me to it.

Both funds loss BIG

Some of the ETF's I would like to see....
(1) LG ETF
(2) POKERSAM ETF
(3) HOG ETF
(4) JLS ETF
(5) ag99 ETF
(6) HURST ETF
(7) TREND2 SYSTEM ETF

To name a few (ggggg)

looking

HOG
What if I had an ETF called TREND1
You could see how good my buys and sells where by just charting the ETF TREND1....

Well that's what I will to do with DENT ETF....
Find out how good his advice is (ggg)

That is one way to do it.
But maybe a better way is to buy DENT (When it starts trading)
and have him do the buying and selling......at the right time...

Dent is saying to go short so why not just buy the SDS Dent

Still no DENT etf trading ?
Maybe some thing happened ?

Dent has gone bear

An actively-managed ETF run by Harry Dent, Jr. has received regulatory approval and could begin trading as early as next week.

This is a first.
Let's see what happens.