How many of these stock went to ZERO in the end?

Michael Gelmon (CEO)..OTHER AFFILIATIONS*......................
Epicus Communications Group, Inc. - EPCG
PaperFree Medical Solutions Inc. - PFMS
Golden Patriot Corp. - GPTC
Allezoe Medical Holdings, Inc. - ALZM
Protocall Technologies Inc. - PCLI
Safeguard Security Holding, Inc. - SSHS
Premier Medical Group, Inc. - Private - BNYN-SUB
Healthcare Of Today, Inc. - Private
Banyan Corp - BNYN BANY.BB


This is worst CEO I have ever seen..........

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2011/comp22106.pdf

LOOKS LIKE THE RUN IS ON HERE> HEY can't reply on CINT but only 1 post a day now as a result of bashers, but it appears it could be rite, don't get me wrong CINT can be an awesome runner, low float and best of all no dilution thats what happened to HESV, SMMT, and other big runners but this guy trying now, only if he has deep pockets to hit 6's and hold them but it looks favorable buys keep coming in. then I would say we have a better chance, but its risky here. do you have Lev 2's if so how many on 5's and 6's? perfect board for this buy the way lol. no one to remove it I hope. lol.

Registration was revoked. Gelmon was too lousy to even get financials together on shell that only needed a couple of years, he said the company didn't have the $50 grand to do it. Made me realize that likely any company he's involved with has no money either and they will bail on the first whiff of trouble, so, any company that has him or his brother involved, stay away. From now on, exposing and castigating him is my mission. They aren't men, they're eunuchs who can't even do what would have been the smart decision here. Absolutely ridiculous.

What did happen to it? I know trading was halted. Etrade doesn't even list me as owning these shares anymore. They are dissapeared. I don't see anything about it on otcbb.com either.

EPCG game over? new trading symbol? any inputs?

I wonder which one is next.....? hmmmmmm? lol

EPCG News ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS - In the Matter of Edentify, Inc.

Tuesday, December 7, 2010 4:24 PM

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News for 'EPCG' - (ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS - In the Matter of Edentify, Inc.)

Dec 07, 2010 (SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION RELEASE/ContentWorks via
COMTEX) -- An Administrative Law Judge has issued an Order Making Findings and
Revoking Registrations by Default (Default Order) in Edentify, Inc.,
Administrative Proceeding No. 3-14118. The Order Instituting Proceedings (OIP)
alleged that Respondents repeatedly failed to file required annual and quarterly
reports while their securities were registered with the Securities and Exchange
Commission. The Default Order finds these allegations to be true and revokes the
registrations of each class of registered securities of Edentify, Inc., Embryo
Development Corp., Enesco Group, Inc., Entertainment Is Us, Inc., Entropin,
Inc., Epicus Communications Group, Inc., Epixtar Corp., and Evans, Inc. (n/k/a
Fur Company A), pursuant to Section 12(j) of the Securities Exchange Act of
1934. (Rel. 34-63446; File No. 3-14118)

Copyright (C) 2010 Federal Information & News Dispatch, Inc.

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Source: Comtex Wall Street News

EPCG's registration revoked by SEC
I didn't think the Form 15 would help.
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2010/34-63446.pdf

Revoked

They didn't even respond....LMFAO

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2010/34-63446.pdf

at least it's still alive...that's something.

Down in the dungeon.... Unfortunately!!

well, at least it's traded today. 100k, but it's something.

perhaps Gelmon responded to the SEC's actions, and filing the form 15 is the first step in whatever they worked out. if he had done nothing, I think it would have been revoked alongside the rest of them.

I believe there are two groups. I'm sure we will hear more about the other group soon.

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin.shtml

34-63297 Nov 10, 2010 Enclaves Group, Inc., Energytec, Inc., Entrada Networks, Inc., Epic Financial Corp., Equisure, Inc., and Equus Gaming Co.


34-63296 Nov 10, 2010 Edentify, Inc., Embryo Development Corp., Enesco Group, Inc., Entertainment Is Us, Inc., Entropin, Inc., Epicus Communications Group, Inc., Epixtar Corp., and Evans, Inc. (n/k/a Fur Company A)

This one has me stumped. All these companies were suspended on 11/10.
Edentify, Inc., Embryo Development Corp., Enclaves Group, Inc., Energytec, Inc., Enesco Group, Inc., Entertainment Is Us, Inc., Entrada Networks, Inc., Entropin, Inc., Epic Financial Corp., Epicus Communications Group, Inc., Epixtar Corp., Equisure, Inc., Equus Gaming Co., and Evans, Inc. (n/k/a Fur Company A)

On 12/01, only these companies had their registrations revoked by the SEC out of that group.
Enclaves Group, Inc., Energytec, Inc., Entrada Networks, Inc., Epic Financial Corp., Equisure, Inc., and Equus Gaming Co.
It will be interesting to see what happens here as I thought EPCG would be on the revoked list. I really can't see the form 15 helping, but who knows?
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2010/34-63401.pdf

I know but EPCG is going to get revoked. I posted it because it's a company that made a bunch of excuses why they couldn't file the periodic reports and they didn't wanna hear any of it. Didn't Gelmon claim he was going to fight it?


Cobalis argues that it should not be penalized for failing to file the periodic reports, stating that it has been the victim of a nefarious creditor and stockholder, YA Global Investments, LP (f/k/a Cornell Capital Partners LP), and related entities (collectively, YA Global). Cobalis states that YA Global has forced it into bankruptcy, such that it will be unable to raise capital, through dubious financial maneuvers and misrepresentations, in part intended to drive Cobalis’s stock price to zero and to enable YA Global to steal Cobalis’s intellectual property. Cobalis states, without providing detail, that new accountants and auditors are working on the matter and that all filings will be up-to-date shortly. Cobalis argues that this proceeding should be dismissed, or at least that summary disposition should be denied, to give Cobalis time to best YA Global and eventually file past-due and current reports.

III. CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
Exchange Act Section 13(a) and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13 thereunder require public corporations to file annual and quarterly reports with the Commission. “Compliance with those requirements is mandatory and may not be subject to conditions from the registrant.” America’s Sports Voice, Inc., 90 SEC Docket 879, 885 (Mar. 22, 2007). Scienter, which is often described as “a mental state embracing intent to deceive, manipulate, or defraud,” is not required to establish violations of Exchange Act Section 13(a) and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13. See SEC v. McNulty, 137 F.3d 732, 740-41 (2d Cir. 1998); SEC v. Wills, 472 F. Supp. 1250, 1268 (D.D.C. 1978). It is undisputed that Cobalis failed to file its required periodic reports for any period after the quarter ended December 31, 2007. Accordingly, Cobalis violated Exchange Act Section 13(a) and Exchange Act Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13.

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/aljdec/2010/id407cff.pdf

this has nothing to do with EPCG

That would do both....

Filing current material would satisfy the SEC in showing you can file as well as getting a market maker..it was based on the fact that the MM AND FINRA sign off on a 15c-211, the SEC surely has given the stamp of approval as well.

At this point in time it's up to Gelmon to just become at least Limited Information and some filings to show he's willing to get this up to speed...

Time will tell on what Gelmon's path becomes in order to get this trading "normally" again.

Just trying to be helpful in my research and reading that I have done on past stocks that I watched and learned from.

Unfortunately we often learn the hard ways, which is never fun.

Cheers

I'm more concerned about making the SEC happy, getting a market maker is a secondary issue.

All companies are lifted from the suspension after 10 days..it's the rules.

Now the issue is whether he can get an MM to sign off on a form 211.

That's the key issue here since no MM will touch this without a financial filing.

has anybody called and talked to him?

Well, AMRA was revoked 3 days after suspension, EPCG has been lifted off the suspension list and is still technically alive lol. So, until it's revoked, I guess there's still always a chance for it, no matter how dim that chance may be.

Have you found any that filed a form 15 after being suspended rather than prior to the suspension? While there's no doubt that things do look quite dark for EPCG shareholders, it was an interesting developement even if it ends up being a futile one on Gelmon's part.

There are instances when suspension and revocation occurs after filing form 15. So, I seriously doubt filing a form 15 really saves them.

examples - ADSOUTH PARTNERS, Inc., American Racing Capital, Inc., Buck-A-Roo$ Holding Corporation, DDS Technologies USA, Inc., and VECTr Systems Inc

American Racing Capital AMRA

On 3/23/2010 a 15-12g was filed

http://sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=american+racing+capital&match=&CIK=&filenum=&State=&Country=&SIC=&owner=exclude&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany


On 4/23/2010 It was suspended

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2010/34-61963-o.pdf

On 4/26/2010 It was revoked

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=04/23/2010&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB

I don't know, looking through everything, I guess it's kind of up to the SEC and the Judge, can't really find a precedent in this situation. I still think that it needs to be current prior to the Form 15 for that to work, but, perhaps the SEC will allow it to slide through or perhaps there's a small loophole somewhere. Regardless, I suppose we'll find out.

interesting, wonder if that will appease the sec.

Gelmon filed a Form 15

UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549

FORM 15

CERTIFICATION AND NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF REGISTRATION UNDER
SECTION 12(g) OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934 OR
SUSPENSION OF DUTY TO FILE REPORTS UNDER SECTIONS 13 AND 15(d)
OF THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934

Commission File Number __________________

EPICUS COMMUNICATIONS GROUP, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)

#207 – 5005 ELBOW DRIVE S.W., CALGARY, AB T2S 2T6
(Address, including zip code, and telephone number, including area code, of registrant’s principal executive offices)

COMMON STOCK
(Title of each class of securities covered by this Form)

NONE
(Titles of all other classes of securities for which a duty to file reports under section 13(a) or 15(d) remains)

Please place an X in the box(es) to designate the appropriate rule provision(s) relied upon to terminate or suspend the duty to file reports:

Rule 12g-4(a)(1) [X ]
Rule 12g-4(a)(2) [X ]
Rule 12h-3(b)(1)(i) [ ]
Rule 12h-3(b)(1)(ii) [ ]
Rule 15d-6 [ ]
Approximate number of holders of record as of the certification date: 232

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 Avitar, Inc. has caused this certification/notice to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned duly authorized person.

Date:  November 30, 2010   By: /s/ Michael Gelmon
        Name: Michael Gelmon
        Title: Chief Executive Officer
Instruction: This form is required by Rules 12g-4, 12h-3 and 15d-6 of the General Rules and Regulations under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. The registrant shall file with the Commission three copies of Form 15, one of which shall be manually signed. It may be signed by an officer of the registrant, by counsel or by any other duly authorized person. The name and title of the person signing the form shall be typed or printed under the signature.


SEC 2069 (02-08)
Persons who respond to the collection of information contained in this form are not required to respond unless the form displays a currently valid OMB control number.

looks like someone dumped their small holding at whatever they price they could get for it. still hoping Gelmon pulls this out of the fire.

looks like someone dumped their small holding at whatever they price they could get for it. still hoping Gelmon pulls this out of the fire.

It's ALIIIIVE!!! LOL, was wondering what was going on with the return. Now, I sometimes like to toss a sheckle on a lotto-ticket like this cuz they usually bounce & I can make some lunch money.

We'll see....

I'm interested in that too although, I believe that I already know the answer judging by prior conversations. Glta here. Gelmon, if you pull this one out, I will sing your praises. If not, I will work overtime to ruin anything that you have to do with any public company from here on out. Gl

well, I was really just curious if he was sticking to the story of getting it done or if he had admitted defeat and was giving up.

There's nothing really that he could say. If he let's this get revoked by matter of him not being willing to pony up some cash, he will be marked and I will keep every momo trader I know and can, out of his stocks from now on, whether they are at risk of a halt or whether they are not. Epcg was a defining stock for him, if he lets it go, it will cost him far more than the extra cash he would have spent. Injecting more money into the company to get it current would have made him reknown in the penny stock world and correspondingly would have made him multiple upon multiple returns on EPCG and any other company he participate's in. On the other side, choosing to not do so, will cost him far more than the extra money required will. It was a defining moment for him, and, he appears to be failing.


Fwiw, I'm happy that he responds to phone calls so well but, one does get the impression that he is either lying or, that he simply does not understand the rules and regulations and actions needed. Lol, I'm not sure which one I would rather it be.

anybody call Gelmon since the halt expired?

Well, it appears the vultures have come in with their I told you so's. Fwiw, nobody predicted this, not even you.

Yeah it expired it's now a Grey market stock. No market makers.

If they didn't respond it will be revoked in a few weeks.

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2010/34-63296.pdf

In view of the allegations made by the Division of Enforcement, the Commission deems it necessary and appropriate for the protection of investors that public administrative proceedings be instituted to determine:
A. Whether the allegations contained in Section II hereof are true and, in connection therewith, to afford the Respondents an opportunity to establish any defenses to such allegations; and,
B. Whether it is necessary and appropriate for the protection of investors to suspend for a period not exceeding twelve months, or revoke the registration of each class of securities registered pursuant to Section 12 of the Exchange Act of the Respondents identified in Section II hereof, and any successor under Exchange Act Rules 12b-2 or 12g-3, and any new corporate names of any Respondents.
IV.
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that a public hearing for the purpose of taking evidence on the questions set forth in Section III hereof shall be convened at a time and place to be fixed, and before an Administrative Law Judge to be designated by further order as provided by Rule 110 of the Commission’s Rules of Practice [17 C.F.R. § 201.110].
IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that Respondents shall file an Answer to the allegations contained in this Order within ten (10) days after service of this Order, as provided by Rule 220(b) of the Commission’s Rules of Practice [17 C.F.R. § 201.220(b)].
If Respondents fail to file the directed Answers, or fail to appear at a hearing after being duly notified, the Respondents, and any successor under Exchange Act Rules 12b-2 or 12g-3, and any new corporate names of any Respondents, may be deemed in default and the proceedings may be determined against it upon consideration of this Order, the allegations of which may be deemed to be true as provided by Rules 155(a), 220(f), 221(f), and 310 of the Commission’s Rules of Practice [17 C.F.R. §§ 201.155(a), 201.220(f), 201.221(f), and 201.310].
This Order shall be served forthwith upon Respondents personally or by certified, registered, or Express Mail, or by other means permitted by the Commission Rules of Practice.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the Administrative Law Judge shall issue an initial decision no later than 120 days from the date of service of this Order, pursuant to Rule 360(a)(2) of the Commission’s Rules of Practice [17 C.F.R. § 201.360(a)(2)].
In the absence of an appropriate waiver, no officer or employee of the Commission engaged in the performance of investigative or prosecuting functions in this
4
or any factually related proceeding will be permitted to participate or advise in the decision of this matter, except as witness or counsel in proceedings held pursuant to notice. Since this proceeding is not “rule making” within the meaning of Section 551 of the Administrative Procedure Act, it is not deemed subject to the provisions of Section 553 delaying the effective date of any final Commission action.

Didn't that expire already?...(checking)....

Well... The sec has frozen trading here!!!

This stock live? Wonder what the hubballooo was all about. Anyone following this one more carefully know what is going on here?

Curious if there is anything worth my throwing some sheckles at here? TIA

hope he comes through, I was really looking forward to the run we were about to have.

WEll the company man does return phone calls. It looks like they are trying. Hold on to your stock. cuz u can't sell it!

Look at how much convertible debt existed on 11/30/2007.

Three years ago. I wonder how much higher the debt is now.

I think I completely understand CelsiusHolding's comment "Gelmon has a lot of $$$ at risk here". Gelmon obviously told him this over the phone. It's obvious Gelmon doesn't own any stock, does he own the debt?? Is he an agent for NIR Group?

Here is the process for Deregistration - you don't just file a form 15.



http://www.dorsey.com/going_dark_voluntary_delisting_deregistration/

Respondents to yesterdays suspension.
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2010/34-63296.pdf

Everyone should always do their DD, including CEO's and folks buying companies!

No different than buying a pizza place the health department shut down and you bought it!!!!!!!!!!!

I have NEVER seen a stock get haulted and then trade at the same status, also I do not remember the last time a company got financials current in 10 days or less

I should feel lucky I only have 2 million shares here, the last one and only other one I have ever been in that got halted cost me $22,000.00, so this is like a discount!

Okay, I guess the wording made it sound like it came out okay after the suspension. That was an interesting case nonetheless because of Pike and the share buying he did after the suspension which was crazy.

Helped me get out less harmed than I thought I would have.

I wish you luck and hope it does come out well.

I think that she was meaning relatively short term versus long term on SPNG following the suspension, it did run after it albeit not that far, .03-.06 I think. Regardless, there have been a few stocks that came back ok after a 10 day suspension, but, almost none I agree. However, since this is a current filings suspension versus the usual criminal investigation or misleading pr suspension, and, since there have been very few so far, with EPCG possibly being in the best position to come back from a suspension that I've ever seen and I've seen a bunch, we'll see, perhaps Gelmon will pull it off.


It doesn't look great but, perhaps, since the suspension is of this nature and, filings aren't that far behind given it's shell status, maybe, just maybe, it'll work out for the best. Maybe. We'll see, fingers crossed, hoping. It could, has a better shot than any other pink suspension I've seen.

Your welcome. I do have a positive feeling about EPCG after talking with Michael. Im good at reading ppl and he seemed very sincere in saying he will rectify the situation. IMO he will get it done !

Huh?!?! It just got ch. 7 today and the insiders are going to criminal trial at some point soon. How is that good?! lol

It got suspended and the only reason it stayed at the price it did was Pike.

I say we don't go there.