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By Kate Kaye
MediaPost's MediaDailyNews Thursday, Sep 23, 2004
http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news.cfm?newsID=270326
http://docs.yahoo.com/docs/pr/release1183.html
It's tough enough for some digital disciples to leave behind their PDAs while away on vacation. But imagine life without the Internet. Yahoo! Inc. and media agency OMD asked participants in their "Internet Deprivation Study" to do just that by living without the Internet for two weeks.
The results weren't pretty. The subjects reported a sense of withdrawal, frustration, and disconnectedness when the Internet was removed from their lives. ...
A poster with FADG withdrawal symptom during the Silicon Investor move from the Oracle to the MS SQL system...
RECENT INCIDENTS & HEADLINES
These updates are based on a collection of reporting from websites and the media.
MIDEAST AND NORTH AFRICA
Iraq
US Marines today closed all roads into Fallujah, the site of last week's slayings of four US civilian contractors and the mutilations of their bodies. Firefights erupted as the Marines raided several houses, sources said, leaving one Marine and five Iraqis dead. There also are reports of clashes in Baghdad and Najaf between coalition forces and Shiites.
Israel
Israeli security forces were placed on high alert ahead of the Passover holiday as troops shot dead a militant and wounded seven other Palestinians in the northern West Bank. The government, meanwhile, kept up its campaign of intimidation against Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, accusing him of being a bigger obstacle to peace than assassinated Hamas chief Sheikh Ahmed Yassin. Security was being especially tightened around Jewish settlements in the West Bank after the killing of a Jewish resident of the northern West Bank settlement of Avnei Hefetz early Saturday. The attack was carried out by a member of the radical Islamic movement Hamas, 18-year-old Ramzi Fakhri Arda, who was himself shot dead by troops stationed nearby.
Jordan
Reports emerging on 1 April 2004 indicate that Jordanian authorities have increased security at government offices, hotels and public facilities and are conducting an intensive search for a vehicle laden with explosives. The measures are a result of information obtained in a security operation on 30 March, during which security forces seized explosives and arrested several suspected members of a terrorist cell who were allegedly planning to stage attacks in Jordan. Authorities are looking for at least three other suspects and have published their pictures and names on local media, asking for the public's assistance in locating them. Authorities have not revealed the intended targets and timing of the planned attacks.
SOUTHEAST ASIA
Thailand
Reports emerged on 31 March 2004 that a group of heavily armed men raided a quarry in Libon, which is located in the southern Thai province of Yala in an area 40 mi/70 km from the Malaysian border, and stole 2,900 lbs of ammonium nitrate, 170 blasting caps and 58 sticks of dynamite. The government has put security forces on high alert in the southern provinces of Yala, Pattani, Narathiwat, Songkhla and Satun. The country's interior minister voiced concern that attackers involved in the surge in violence in southern Thailand may attempt to conduct attacks in the popular tourist area of Hat Yai. Authorities warned that there is a heightened possibility that attacks may occur during the upcoming Songkran Water Festival between 13 and 16 April 2004.
Philippines
On 30 March 2004, Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo announced that security forces seized approximately 80 lbs. of TNT and arrested four suspects in Metro Manila, reportedly thwarting terror attacks against malls and trains in the capital. Arroyo claims that the arrests and seizure of explosives prevented a "Madrid-level attack." Authorities believe that the four suspects are members of the Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG), a quasi-separatist/criminal group, and that the suspects reportedly received training from members of the Jemaah Islamiah (JI) terrorist group. According to police officials, the men had been under police surveillance since the beginning of March 2004. Following their arrests, authorities report that the men have claimed responsibility for the blast and subsequent fire aboard a ferry in Manila Bay on 27 February 2004.
Bangladesh
Thousands of business owners in Dhaka staged a protest on 1 April 2004 to demand that the government take serious action to suppress criminal activity in the city. In recent days, traders went on strike to protest over this issue as well. The protests come after a number of reported attacks directed at businessmen in recent weeks and months. No serious violence was reported during the 1 April event.
EUROPE
United Kingdom
Police officers in London carried out anti-terror raids throughout southern London on 30 March 2004. A force composed of at least 700 officers divided into five groups raided 24 houses early on 30 March. Eight British terror suspects of Pakistani descent were arrested. Officials also recovered approximately 500 lbs. of ammonium nitrate. Two suspects were arrested in Uxbridge, west London, and a further three in Crawley south of London. One suspect was detained in Ilford, east of London, and two others in Horley and Slough, south and west of London respectively. The ammonium nitrate was recovered from a mini-storage unit in west London.
Spain
Spanish police have found an explosive device on a high-speed railway between Madrid and Seville last week, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said. A rail employee raised the alert after seeing a suspicious package on the line half an hour outside Madrid and at least 10 trains have been halted. Spain's rail system is particularly busy ahead of the Easter holidays.
Spain was rocked by a series of bombs on passenger trains in Madrid on 11 March which killed 191 and injured hundreds. Police are pursuing suspected Islamic militants for those attacks.
The explosives were similar to those used in the 11 March attack.
Bombs have also been found on train tracks in France and Moscow in recent weeks. Moscow rail officials discovered a grenade rigged to explode when the next train passed on the main rail line northwest of Moscow on 1 April 2004 near the Monino rail station. The device was disarmed successfully.
Greece
United States athletes will have increased security on their flights to the Athens Olympics and an evacuation strategy in case of a major terrorist attack, the media reported Thursday.
The U.S. Olympic Committee's security chief told the media that the U.S. team would receive additional protection from Greek and international authorities during the games because the United States - along with Israel, Britain, Spain and others - is at a higher risk of terrorist threats. Armed air marshals on flights carrying athletes were likely, but no further detail was provided.
AMERICAS
Bolivia
An angry miner with dynamite strapped to his chest blew himself up in Bolivia's congress Tuesday, killing two police officers and wounding 10 others, authorities said. La Paz Police Chief Guido Arandia said the suicide bomber — whose demand for early retirement benefits underscored the grievances of many low-paid miners in Bolivia — stormed into congress around midday and went to a part of the building away from the congressional chambers. The miner detonated his vest laced with at least five sticks of dynamite as congressional security police tried to negotiate. Arandia said he killed himself and fatally wounded Col. Marbel Flores, head of the congressional security police, and an officer who wasn't immediately identified. Col. Carlos Za, head of the country's intelligence service, was critically injured.
Dominican Republic
Dominican Air Force troops took control of six major airports Wednesday when air traffic controllers threatened to strike in demand of wage increases.
President Hipólito Mejía ordered a government decree giving the Civil Aeronautics Department the right to ``preserve and guarantee the security of civil aviation operations in the country."
Bolívar de León, president of the Dominican Association of Air Traffic Controllers union, condemned the takeover, saying at no point did employees make concrete plans to abandon their jobs. The troops arrived at airports in capital Santo Domingo, Santiago, Puerto Plata, Barahona, Punta Cana and La Romana. They told some 300 air traffic controllers and technicians to leave, then took over their duties. How long the troops would be in the airports wasn't clear.
For the past two weeks, the air traffic controllers union has been pushing the Aviation Department, which oversees the airports, to double their wages. Currently air traffic controllers make between $340 and $1,136 a month.
Argentina
On 1 April 2004, approximately 130,000 demonstrators rallied in Buenos Aires demanding an end to the country's increasing crime rate. Similar demonstrations took place in smaller cities across the country. The demonstrators urged the government to re-organize the police force and impose tougher sentences on criminals. Argentina, and particularly Buenos Aires, has seen a sharp increase in the number of kidnappings for ransom targeting local businessmen and ordinary citizens.
Brazil
On 30 March 2004, a strike initiated by the Brazilian Federal Police entered its 21st day. Federal Police have been demanding higher salaries that they claim the government owes them from previous negotiations. The strike by the Federal Police, who are in charge of immigration and customs in Brazil, has caused long delays for people coming in and out of the country of up to four hours. Airline companies operating out of the Antonio Carlos Jobim International Airport in Rio de Janeiro have reportedly been asking customers to arrive at the airport five hours ahead of time to ensure that the flights are not delayed due to people having to wait up to four hours in customs/immigration lines. Federal Police have put approximately 80 percent of their work force on strike. There has been no word from the government on any ongoing negotiations with the Federal Police.
AFRICA
Sudan
Reports emerged on 30 March 2004 that government officials arrested at least 10 military officers in connection with a possible coup attempt. It is not clear from reports when the arrests occurred. Officials believe that the officers arrested belong to the Islamic opposition Popular Congress and that the coup attempt was related to an ongoing armed insurgency in the western region of Darfur. In addition to the military arrests, six ranking opposition politicians were also detained, according to Popular Congress sources. Further details regarding the allegations of a coup attempt are not available at this time.
The history of the Assasins is well known to military leaders.
The Motto of The U.S. Navy Seals Stealth Assasins (SSA)
PAIN IS ONLY TEMPORARY, PRIDE IS FOREVER
Hassan Ben Sabbah conditioned and organized a band of fearless political killers such as had never been seen before.26 His method of indoctrination was unique.vii He constructed a secret garden and furnished it with all the delights promised in the Koran…to the faithful when they reached paradise. The chosen were drugged, one or two at a time, and taken to this garden by night. When they woke up in the morningviii they were surrounded by beautiful and scantily clad houris [in Muslim belief, women who live with the blessed in paradise27] who would minister to their every need and desire. After being allowed to savor this false — but pleasant and sensual — paradise for a day or so, they were again drugged before being taken back to awaken in their own squalid hovel or cave dwelling. To them, it was as if it had been a vivid dream. Ben Sabbah then sent for them, told them Allah had given them a preview of paradise, and surprised them by telling them exactly what each had been up to while in the secret garden. So successful was he in this method of conditioning and indoctrination that it was said he once astounded a visiting emir whom he wanted to impress with his power by sending for one of his men and ordering him to kill himself — which he immediately did.28 When an Assassin was sent out by ibn-al-Sabbah to carry out some violent death, the Assassin was just as dedicated. So convinced were the Assassins that they would be rewarded in paradise that they never hesitated to fulfill their missions of murder, even though this often meant their victims’ bodyguards would kill them immediately afterward.
http://www.geocities.com/skews_me/assassin.html
Regarding Bush and Cheney?
If you could throw them out of office how would you do it? it would be easier to pull them down than to throw them out. There are at least a million people in this country who now believe that Bush and Cheney and their entire cabinet should be impeached. Why has the process not started? Who is getting paid to keep them in power? Who keeps the military industrial financial media complex in place?
Death for Money - Money for Death
"Actually, if you count up all the wars since the beginning of time, you begin to see why we have not yet reached the stars.
As long as man values his pocket book more than he does a human life there will be more death and destruction....it will never end.
As long as humans value the taking of life for money humanity will be hindered in their evolution. Maybe another ten thousand years of wars will teach man a lesson.
Some of us "Hungarians who came from Mars" remember what happened there. There was a nuclear holacaust that wiped out the whole planet millions of years ago. Mankind has not learned these lessons for hundreds of millions of years. Why would anything be any different in the coming century.
There are less than 20 million Hungarians left in the world after 1,000 years of wars. There are less than 2 million Latvians left in the world after 500 years of wars.
Perhaps there will be less than a million people left in the world after another thousand years of wars on this planet, we may not get the chance to live another million years. Humanity is a failed experiment of the gods.
The more things seem to change the more they stay the same.
So many arguments, so much fighting, so much pain and destruction...I think it is high time for me to leave this world."
G! Alex Gabor
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2764849
A former intelligence professional sheds new light on the obscure intersection of the military and the paranormal--the military-occult complex--and reveals the incredible story of psychic abilities turned into a weapon of war by the world's soldiers and spies.
In the annals of military and espionage history, many strange tales have been told, but none can match the saga of psychic espionage-the history of the military-occult complex. With the flavor of fiction, yet with its foundation in fact, The Psychic Battlefield is the complete history of the use of man's extrasensory powers in search of the information needed to win wars--hot and cold.
The Psychic Battlefield spans the five-thousand-year history of ESPionage, from the attempted overthrow of the Pharaoh Rameses by magic to the CIA's use of military-trained psychics during the Cold War. It is a story as true as it is incredible.
The cast of characters includes such noteworthy names as sorcerer-poet Aleister Crowley, author Ian Fleming, spoon-bending General Stubblebine, and psychic warrior David Morehouse. In addition, the book features an exclusive interview with top psychic spy Joseph McMoneagle.
Most remarkable of all is Mandelbaum's fascinating expose of the paranormal research and remote-viewing experiments conducted by the CIA, as well as the real effectiveness of the government's Stargate program.
Attorney, psychic, former intelligence professional, and dark-side investigative reporter, W. Adam Mandelbaum clearly demonstrates that the final frontier of future wars and spies is the mind. Stay tuned.
Bush says had no warning of 9/11
Thu 25 March, 2004 21:16
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=483271§ion=news
By Caren Bohan
NASHUA, New Hampshire (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush insisted he had no advance warning of the September 11, 2001, attacks as he challenged the assertions of a former aide who accused him of not placing a high enough priority on pursuing al Qaeda prior to the tragedy.
Visiting a community college in the election swing state of New Hampshire on Thursday, Bush tried to shore up his credibility on national security, which may be key to stopping Democrat John Kerry from taking the White House from him in November.
"Had I known that the enemy was going to use airplanes to strike America, to attack us, I would have used every resource, every asset, every power of the government, to protect the American people," Bush said, appearing with Cheryl McGinnis, the wife of a pilot killed in the attacks.
Counterterrorism expert Richard Clarke, who served the last four U.S. presidents, said Bush did not take the threat of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organisation seriously and downgraded its importance in comparison to the administration of former President Bill Clinton.
Clarke delivered his scathing critique of Bush in testimony on Wednesday before the commission investigating the events leading up to the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.
One of the most damaging revelations was a letter Clarke wrote a week before the attacks asking White House policymakers to imagine a day after hundreds of Americans lay dead at home and abroad after a terrorist attack and ask themselves what they could have done.
BUSH RAISING MONEY ON KERRY TURF
The White House has sought to undermine Clarke's credibility, brandishing comments he made previously which had been favourable to the administration.
Clarke's allegations, detailed in a new book, have blanketed the U.S. airwaves in recent days, putting the president on the defensive just as his campaign was gaining momentum with an effort to attack Kerry.
Kerry, who has remained out of the fray on vacation throughout the saga, returned to the campaign trail on Thursday, promising to restore trust in the White House.
Bush, who planned later on Thursday to raise $1.2 million (660,000 pounds) in Kerry's home state of Massachusetts, did not mention Clarke in his remarks. But he did refer to the commission, with which his administration has had a somewhat rocky relationship.
Bush said the panel was doing "very important" work and noted it was looking not only at his administration but also "the eight years of the previous administration."
Bush initially opposed the panel's creation and has been involved at various times over the past few months in delicate negotiations over the timing and circumstances of his own testimony with the panel and those of his staff.
The president has agreed to meet with the commission but both he and his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, have declined to testify in public hearings. The administration has cited separation of powers because the panel was created by Congress, but commission members have expressed disappointment that Rice did not join administration officials such as Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in testifying publicly this week.
CIA to issue cyberterror intelligence estimate
The first-of-its-kind estimate will detail threats to and vulnerabilities of critical infrastructures
News Story by Dan Verton
FEBRUARY 24, 2004 (COMPUTERWORLD) - WASHINGTON -- The CIA, working with the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon, this week will publish the first-ever classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on the threat of cyberterrorism against U.S. critical infrastructures.
News about the estimate, which was first requested in March 2000 by a senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, came today during a Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing on cyberterrorist threats and capabilities.
However, Sen. John Kyl (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security, and ranking member Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) expressed concern that the Department of Homeland Security has not focused enough high-level attention on the threat posed by terrorist-sponsored cyber disruptions or physical attacks against critical cyber infrastructures.
"I'm afraid that we're not taking this threat seriously enough," said Feinstein. In particular, she said she was troubled by the decision to move the position once held by former cybersecurity czar Richard Clarke from the White House to where it now sits, several layers down in the DHS bureaucracy. She questioned the extent to which Amit Yoran, the current director of the National Cyber Security Division at the DHS, can influence the overall national homeland security strategy.
Yoran, however, said the DHS doesn't view cybersecurity as a separate entity, but "one element" of a larger critical infrastructure protection strategy.
Kyl pressed Yoran to answer specific questions about the cyberthreats posed to the U.S. by both nation-states and terrorist organizations. Yoran was unable to provide any answers and relied instead on supporting testimony from John Malcolm, deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department, and Keith Lourdeau, deputy assistant director of the FBI's Cyber Division.
According to Yoran, the DHS takes a "threat-independent" approach to cybersecurity and does not assess the capabilities or intent of any specific group or individual. "We'll have to wait and see what the NIE says," Yoran told Kyl.
Lourdeau said the FBI's assessment indicates that the cyberterrorist threat to the U.S. is "rapidly expanding." In addition, the FBI predicts that "terrorist groups will either develop or hire hackers, particularly for the purpose of complementing large physical attacks with cyberattacks," he said.
Describing what could have become a cyberterrorist incident, Lourdeau explained how two hackers on May 3, 2003, sent an e-mail to the National Science Foundation's Network Operations Center. In it, they claimed to have penetrated the NSF network that controls life-support systems for dozens of scientists at a South Pole research station at a time when weather conditions would not permit aircraft to deliver assistance.
The e-mail, which threatened to expose the vulnerability data unless the attacker was paid money, "contained data only found on the NSF's computer systems, proving that this was no hoax," said Lourdeau.
The FBI eventually determined that the intruders were using computers in a cybercafe in Romania and had first hacked into a system operated by a trucking company in Pittsburgh before breaking into the NSF network. The two hackers were arrested in June.
Malcolm urged the committee "not to allow the provisions [of the USA Patriot Act] to sunset." According to him, key provisions of the law, including those that permit courts to issue nationwide search warrants for electronic communications, are "essential to any prosecution of cyberterrorism."
http://www.computerworld.com/printthis/2004/0,4814,90448,00.html
Do foreign terrorists now have nuclear weapons in their possession?
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Here's another politickle type board, CB - #board-1245 .... all enemies foreign and domestick, blast away at your leisure -g- .... i was looking forward to catching up on SI, can't now .... Bob is gonna roll some heads there at that ISP, just watch .... cheers
Well, where is everybody? SI's servers are down - or some computer thingie - and the ISP tech support isn't answering its page. Bob is afraid we won't be back on until Tuesday.
Excellent fotos on that blog, carranza .... las pantaletas, yes, lol .... and this - 'We have a number of advantages. First of all it is warm. Second there are so many women protesters we could probably write out the Constitution with their bodies on Caracas' highways. Third they are very pretty so the country will, once again, come to a standstill.'
'Libertad de Expresión' - that's what it's all about, isn't it ... the core human right, the basis of all others
The women of Michoacán are known for their beauty , there is something in the air, or the soil .... you'd think the indigenous blood specific to the area would be a factor, but those without any apparent hint of it will still tend to be strikingly beautiful .... but for me the mayita is the peak of all, there are places in the southeast where your heart will be broken many a time each day
I'm guessing that the Columbia-Venezuela-Cuba situation will soon be less ignored than in the past. Thanks to the great contributions of SR, this board may be better informed about the PI than the SA.
Superficially affectionate nicknames aside, there is not much respect left for Castro and there was never any to speak of for bin Laden .... the national attraction to seeing David stand up to Goliath only works when there is a genuine Goliath, a giant who abuses the Normal People .... it's getting to be a while now since the US has had the northern half of the nation occupied, and chicanos are much less suppressed now than they were thirty years ago, they're beginning to enter politics even .... it's a different thing, when the anglo accepts la Raza, makes it not so much about nation-states any more, just about the rights of the people on the continent of our ancestors .... the matrícula consular is being accepted by various northern cities and states right now, don't think mejicanos aren't watching that .... those who object to this or that policy of Fox or Bush or whoever are not wanting to hand Fidel or Osama power over them, either .... day by day average people are better informed, this is my whole sense of the matter
Guantánamo - the US should simply vacate the place, immediately ... if they can't summon the guts to admit the gross mistake of occupying it under duress all these years, they could just declare it redundant to their needs or something, and clear out .... shameful act, to occupy under force of arms what is clearly cubano territory ..... Fidel doesn't even cash the rent cheques, they send him usd2000 every year and he just saves them, presumably for the case in the Hague .... this is called plattismo, this arrogance, an example of what turns a friendly giant back into Goliath
No time to check out that blog, looks good, later .... uw - he and i get along much better than do either of us with FL, whose sense of humour seemed to fail him there the other day .... and no, i think i'm banned until quite late in the month .... better off that way though, get more garden work done -g- ...... later, cháu
I'm sure your priviliges are back, anyway.
You sure ? - As of this minute : Silicon Investor is down for maintenance for approximately 24 hours beginning at 3pm EST on Friday, May 16th.
It sounds quite nebulous as to who is 'in' al Qaida ... it's not like they have a bricks and mortar head office, a hierarchy of corporate structure, and neat little membership cards in their wallets ..... more like a religious thing maybe, in the same way there are hundreds of little organisations of born-again christians, all professing more or less the same thing, but unconnected by clerical chain of command.
Good point. I suppose anyone brandishing a Qu'ran and a bomb or two will be tagged as AQ in the future, regardless of actual affiliation.
You'd be interested to know--or probably already know--that in certain quarters in Mexico, OBL is referred to as "el barbudo" and that Fidel has lost the appellation due to.....irrelevancy.
I agree that Oppenheimer has good thoughts. Moderation is the key to Cuba, particularly since Cuba in no way affects the US's security. You know that if the hyper-intelligent, hyper-aggressive Cuban-Americans in Dade County now think moderation is a good idea after years of guerra, guerra, guerra, it must be a terrific idea. Let him rot from within. Plus, where else can the US give the captured Islamothugs a nice tropical vacation?
Too bad about the Venezuelan beauties. Venezuelans are very lucky, they really are favored with the most gorgeous women...hope I don't get in trouble for that comment, but it's true, dammit.
http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/categories/VenezuelanBeauty/
Scroll down about halfway down the page and you'll see some of the funniest pantaletas you've ever seen.
I'm sorry that you and Uncle got off on the wrong foot. I think you have a lot to fruitfully discuss.
And, pssst, FL doesn't come around here very much, so it's a safe haven for the banned. I'm sure your priviliges are back, anyway.
It sounds quite nebulous as to who is 'in' al Qaida ... it's not like they have a bricks and mortar head office, a hierarchy of corporate structure, and neat little membership cards in their wallets ..... more like a religious thing maybe, in the same way there are hundreds of little organisations of born-again christians, all professing more or less the same thing, but unconnected by clerical chain of command
carranza, last night i came across good articles on Cuba, on the Miami Herald site, that chap Andres Oppenheimer who is quite informed and often says sensible things imho ... here is their section on Cuba, they keep it up pretty well - http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/cuba/
Things are pretty bad when your presidente runs the country down to where you can't enter the Miss Universe contest, eh - #msg-1012994 ... this will hit venezolanos hard, as winning here is part of national identity
Am i banned over here? .... it wasn't specifically stated so in the writ of matar corpus .... where's uw, did he find him some peasants? -g- ..... cheers
recent terrorist attacks have resulted in a lot more Muslim deaths than deaths of Westerners
I speculate that its only because the attacks been in nations with a large muslim population. Recent targets have been Westerners in SA, and Belgian, Spanish, Jewish people in Morrocco.
I tend to think of it as "collateral damage". The targeting to me is more revealing.
I agree. The information definitively linking AQ to Morocco is speculative though I'm sure it is reasonable to speculate that AQ or AQ sympathizer is involved. However, my larger point is that the recent terrorist attacks have resulted in a lot more Muslim deaths than deaths of Westerners, something that can't possibly be helping the terrorists' cause.
<it's reasonable to conclude >
In other words - speculate. At this stage evidence (if any) is not public knowledge, and copy-cats may abound...
Hi, kumar.
I think it's reasonable to conclude that the Morocco attack was AQ or at least AQ-inspired. The timing, coordination and the multiple targets are AQ signatures.
The odd thing to me is that these attacks have killed far more Muslims than Westerners. Despite the fact that the targets were Western and Jewish facilities, it appears that the terrorists kill disproportionately more of their own kind, a tactic that should ultimately prove counter-productive.
I'm still waiting for the big attack on the SA oil fields, a virtual certainty IMO.
I dont think "They" have been identified positively in both situations.
Why do they attack in places like Arabia and Morocco? Could it be part of a strategy, or is it because, perhaps, they may not have the capacity to attack elsewhere?
Blasts hit Casablanca, Morrocco :
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/05/17/morocco.blasts/index.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3035803.stm
Hi C2,
Baghdad Express
nice post
thx
--k
boy he sounds rational
it's my guess that enough skeletons will tumble out of cupboards now to justify the war several times over.
WMD and the rest.
SI is back now I think.
Check this for Saddam's tunnels:
http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/wo_muller031403.asp?p=0
Baghdad Express
A subway planned for Iraq’s capital was never built—or was it? Saddam’s biggest secret may be a weapon of mass transit.
By Richard Muller
Technology for Presidents
March 14, 2003
Nothing undermines technical surveillance like an underground facility—and the rogue powers know it. Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya, and al Qaeda all made extensive use of the subterrane to frustrate our remote study of their secret facilities. Now there are rumors of a massive complex of tunnels under Baghdad, a possible storage location for clandestine chemical and biological weapons.
The latest revelation comes from Dr. Hussein Shahristani, the former head of the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission, who escaped in 1991, but has continued to sneak back into Iraq to aid rebels. In an interview with CBS News, he said that there are over 100 kilometers of tunnels under Baghdad, laid according to the plans for a public subway, but converted to military use. His knowledge is hearsay (he had direct contact with only one person who worked in the tunnels) but plausible. The United Nations inspectors had heard rumors of such a system, but have never been able to locate it. Tunnels are relatively cheap, and extremely effective for hiding weapons and people.
Tunneling for military purposes is almost as ancient as war itself. Originally, to "undermine" was to breach or destroy a military wall from below. Explosives placed in such mines eventually adopted the name mine for themselves. The United States began the modern era of large, deeply buried facilities with the completion of the Cheyenne Mountain complex in 1965 to hold the Operations Center for the North American Air Defense Command. The man-made cavern was deep enough to survive a hit by a small nuclear bomb. It holds 15 spring-suspended buildings, eleven of which are three stories high. It holds resources to sustain 800 people for 30 days. By that time the nuclear war would presumably be over.
Despite its own leadership in the underground, the military was shocked in 1974 by an inadvertent discovery. Soldiers near the demilitarized zone separating North and South Korea noticed steam leaking from the ground. They dug down, hoping to find a hot spring, but discovered instead a tunnel that came from the north under the DMZ and extended over a kilometer into South Korea. It was made of reinforced concrete and had electric power and narrow-gauge rails. Three additional tunnels have subsequently been found, the most recent one in 1990. It is 145 meters below ground, 2 meters square. If used during a war, it could have conveyed a full division of troops every hour, including equipment. Nobody knows how many undetected tunnels still penetrate the DMZ. They are not easy to find. (Photos of the tunnels can be found online in an excerpt from Major General John Singlaub's book Hazardous Duty.)
Once, large tunnels were dug by heroic miners called "sand hogs" who blasted with dynamite and dug with pick and shovel. Today, the tunnels are ground and scraped by tunnel boring machines, 150-ton monsters that resemble the giant worms of Frank Herbert's novel Dune. These massive vehicles can dig up to 75 meters per day in soft earth, but only a few meters per day in granite. A set of tunnel borers dug the Chunnel in three years. When they finished, the machines were left near the middle, buried deep under the English Channel. It was too expensive to back them out.
In the early 1990s, Libya began construction of a vast underground "fertilizer factory" near the town of Tarhunah. It isn't clear why such a factory need be underground; the U.S. suspected it was designed to make chemical weapons. Indeed, in 1996 two German businessmen were convicted of exporting chemical warfare equipment to the plant. U.S. Secretary of Defense William Perry told Congress that he would consider using "the whole range of American weapons" to keep the facility from completion. Libya halted construction shortly afterwards.
There were once plans for a public subway system beneath the streets of Baghdad, but it was never built—unless you believe Shahristani. He says that Saddam took over the project to construct a massive military complex under the city. Its 100 kilometers of tunnels are supposedly used not for transportation, but for military operations, and to conceal Saddam’s illegal weapons and materials.
Such tunnels are remarkably difficult to locate. In remote regions, the addits (entrances) can sometimes be spotted when debris is hauled away. If the tunnels are in use, you can spot the infrared emissions from their warmth. You can find them using ground-penetrating radar if they aren't too deep and the ground is dry and uniform. In prior inspections in Iraq such radar found buried missile parts that had been smuggled from Russia. When the UN inspection teams returned to Iraq last November, they brought with them radar systems capable of penetrating the dry desert to depths of 10 meters.
All these methods are essentially useless in city clutter. Addits can be hidden in warehouses; dirt can be hauled away through city streets without drawing attention. The clutter of underground structures in city streets makes ground-penetrating radar and infrared sensors worthless. Information comes only from humint (human intelligence), the gleaning of information from those willing to tell. To keep such secrets secret, you simply forbid interviews with people who know.
Even if the inspectors found tunnels under Baghdad, they would have trouble probing them. Forbidden passageways are easily camouflaged with piles of rubble. Weapons stores can be permanently loaded on rail, and moved kilometers at a moment's notice, with no danger of overhead observation. As every spelunker learns, the three dimensions of an underground complex make it hard to even find your way out, let alone explore and inspect. It is hard to know where you are; the Global Positioning System doesn't work underground. Theseus found his path back out of the Labyrinth only by unraveling a thread (a gift from his girlfriend Ariadne) behind him when he entered. The U.S. Naval Air Systems Command takes the problem so seriously that it has established a Tunnel Warfare Center near China Lake, CA, to train soldiers in underground movement and combat.
I don't know if the Baghdad subway exists, or—if it does—whether the U.S. government knows its layout. Shahristani says that an American firm designed part of the system. Did Saddam follow the original design? According to CBS News, those plans are now in U.S. possession. If that is true, then it must have been a difficult decision by the United States to keep the plans secret from the U.N. inspectors. Had the United States showed the plans, Saddam would have learned the limits of our knowledge. That would be invaluable to him if the war reaches Baghdad.
We know that Saddam does have some structures deep under Baghdad. A member of the British Parliament said that when he took an elevator to meet Saddam underground, it went so far down that his "ears popped." A complex subway under Baghdad is just what Saddam needs—for illegal weapons storage, and—if necessary—for his personal escape. He could afford to build such a complex. And if he didn't build this subway, the question becomes, why not?
I take full responsibility.
I was really raging today.
Who do you think dropped a dime?
Maybe it's the New Carl Rove Filter.
Rascal@ lost all my saved.com
We haven't used the e-bomb yet. No need for it. Here's a very nice description of some of the technology that was used and how it affected what presently appears to be a good result:
http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/wo_muller040203.asp
Apparently, I would want you on any
team I was forming.
Do you think it is over?
Maybe because those new colors were so unflattering!
Rascal@ letsseewhoshowsup.com
(I'm taking side bets against the Neocons)
I guess SI was 'E-Bombed' today... :o)
I was beginning to wonder when you would get fed up with the FADG thread enough for extreme action to be taken -ggg-
Looks like the race to the airport is over..
ABC television network reporter Bob Schmidt, with the 3rd Infantry Division, says he was standing on the airport tarmac when he filed his report.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_767159.html?menu=
Hi PB,
I guess SI was 'E-Bombed' today... :o)
--fl
but sources said US forces had discovered some sort of tunnel system under the airport and one tunnel led all the way back to the Tigris river
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_767158.html
Too late for Saddam to save himself, says Rumsfeld
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_767148.html
Please have this board shut down at once before it gets popular. I am already wasting far too much time on SI trying to keep up with the FADG thread over there.
French to veto any move by US at UN Security Council to invade Iraq.
Interesting. The French aren't paying attention. Bush said he'd go it alone if necessary and has moved in enough troops to do the job. Secondly, he says he has incontrovertible proof that will make the inspections worthless. How will the French look when he discloses this proof the night before the Security Council vote?
C2@don'tmesswithTexas.com
From The New Republic:
http://www.tnr.com/iraq.mhtml
Guide to the Iraq Debate
by Reihan Salam
While Saddam hasn't outlasted as many American presidents as Fidel, he's managed to survive into 2003. If he plays his cards right, he just might make it through to 2004--unlikely, but not impossible. Always keep in mind the following exchange between Saddam and Egyptian journalist Sayyid Nassar that took place back in November:
Nassar: Mr. President, do you think that time is working in your favor, or against you?
Saddam: No doubt, time is working for us. We have to buy some more time, and the American-British coalition will disintegrate because of internal reasons and because of the pressure of public opinion in the American and British street. Nations know the truth and are more capable of understanding than the leaders who are preoccupied with the Zionist conspiracies that are hatched by the media, conspiracies that blind those leaders.
And indeed, Saddam has managed to capitalize on recent developments. Despite some early diplomatic successes, including the unanimous passage of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441 that authorized the current round of inspections, the situation grows less tractable by the day. It is as though "Who Let the Dogs Out," the Baha Men's ubiquitous hit single, was less a reflection on the wily ways of man's best friend than a dark premonition concerning today's international landscape, with "dogs" standing in for various rogue states. Shockingly enough, Pyongyang is leading the pack. The crisis in Korea has moved from sinister simmering to a slow boil, and the Bush administration's ham-fisted mishandling of relations with South Korea has only made matters worse.
Not surprisingly, Saddam's minions have seized on the administration's blithe indifference to the (arguably greater) threat posed by Kim Jong Il to argue that Iraq is being unfairly targeted. According to Reuters, Al Thawra, the house organ of Saddam's Baath Party, had the following to say on December 30:
"Look how Washington deals with the two situations, how it threatens to invade Iraq, which has no weapons of mass destruction," the newspaper said.
"At the same time, the U.S. administration is saying it wants a peaceful end to the crisis with North Korea," it said.
The paper said Baghdad was cooperating fully with the United Nations. "So why do America and Britain continue to threaten it?" the paper wrote. "Is it because Iraq is an Arab country? Or because Iraq is an oil country? Or because the Zionist lobby inside the U.S. administration wants to settle old scores?"
The Washington Times reports that Saddam's infamous elder son, and possible successor, went even further:
"We Arabs need to revise our behavior towards the United States, as North Korea has done, to be respected," said the daily Babel, owned by President Saddam Hussein's elder son, Uday. The paper was referring to Pyongyang's relaunching of its nuclear program in the face of stiff U.S. criticism.
"Arabs need to learn the lesson from the Korean example to mobilize in order to stop an attack on Iraq and prevent a U.S.-Zionist crusade in the Arab world," Babel said.
Thus far, Saddam has also managed to prevent any serious defections of weapons scientists through a combination of intimidation and more aggressive measures. After refusing to cooperate for weeks, Iraqi officials finally released a list of 500 scientists. As of yet, only a handful of interviews have taken place, and there are rumors that Iraq is hiding others.
Back to the American street.
In a December 31 New York Times' op-ed titled "Iraq Belongs on the Back Burner," Warren Christopher, Carter administration veteran and Clinton's first secretary of state, offered the following observation:
North Korea's reopening of its plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon puts it within six months of being able to produce sufficient weapons-grade material to generate several nuclear bombs. Contrast this with Iraq. Not only is North Korea much further along than Iraq in building nuclear weapons but, by virtue of its longer-range missiles, it has a greater delivery capability.
In closing, Christopher argued that President Bush "should take a new, broad look at the question of whether such a war [against Iraq], at this moment, is the right priority for America." Of course, Christopher would have felt the same way irrespective of events in Korea. Aside from the opening paragraphs, his op-ed reads like much Al Gore's antiwar speech at San Francisco's Commonwealth Club. This is hardly "a new, broad look."
By contrast, consider an op-ed that appeared in The Washington Post by former Clinton National Security Advisor Samuel Berger and Robert Galluci, former chief negotiator of the now defunct Agreed Framework between North Korea and the civilized galaxy. Its title alone, "Two Crises, No Back Burner," is Zen-like in its profundity, only hinting at the wisdom within: We should make nice with South Korea; most of all, we must "understand that none of the options is without risk." Deep thoughts. And yet Berger and Galluci also argue persuasively that we have to keep the pressure on Saddam:
Iraqi nuclear weapons in the near term cannot be ruled out, but they are not likely. Nevertheless, putting Iraq on hold to deal with North Korea would have serious consequences. It would send a chilling message that the United States can be knocked off course in one arena by troublemaking in another. It would drive any expectation of the constancy of our purpose into a tailspin. The president has invested American credibility in disarming Iraq. The prospect of a nuclear Iraq, which would profoundly change the political landscape of a critical region, is strategically unacceptable to us. In the absence of voluntary disarmament, sidestepping Iraq now would be an emboldening victory for Saddam Hussein, making it even more difficult to deal with him later.
With this, Berger and Galluci capture an essential truth about Saddam.
Last Monday, Michael Dobbs captured an essential truth about the American relationship with Saddam in an article that appeared in The Washington Post--specifically, that the U.S. government turned a blind eye to many of Saddam's most egregious abuses during its war with Iran and, worse yet, indirectly aided his efforts to build weapons of mass destruction. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was, according to Dobbs, "instrumental in tilting U.S. policy toward Baghdad." As a private citizen, Rumsfeld served as a special envoy to Baghdad during the Reagan administration; in this capacity, he paved the way for an extensive intelligence relationship and transfers of dual-use technologies. While this was by no means entirely unknown, the Dobbs piece does shed light on an uncomfortable past. It's difficult to believe that this won't have an effect on the Iraq debate. But what exactly does it tell us? That the American government once behaved in a manner that proved short-sighted? Some will argue that the U.S. relationship with Iraq in the 1980s should serve as a cautionary example, and they'd be right to do so. But they'd be wrong to argue that this bolsters the case against regime change. If anything, the fact of American assistance does precisely the opposite: Once you realize you've created a monster, the thing to do is slay it, not pretend it doesn't exist.
Otherwise, news reports have focused on the buildup of American troops in the Gulf region as it approaches the 100,000 mark, a landmark that should be reached in February--just in time for Hans Blix's January 27 report to the Security Council on Iraq's weapons program, the much-anticipated trigger that is expected to unleash the ultimate "bad cop." Naturally, thoughts have turned to post-war arrangements.
On Monday, David Sanger and James Dao of The New York Times described in rough outline the Bush administration's plans for a transitional administration in Iraq. It looks as though those elements in the administration that wanted a quick-and-dirty, cut-and-run strategy--the very same elements that have always been skeptical of nation-building efforts, led by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld--have lost out, at least for now. In order to prevent inter-ethnic violence that could lead to the Balkanization of Iraq, and also to dissuade neighboring states from developing spheres of influence, the preliminary plans call for a substantial occupation force that will remain in place for at least a year and a half.
There's also a plan to separate security functions--to be handled by the American military--and civilian functions--to be handled by a separate administrator who may well be appointed by the United Nations and serve under its auspices, as in transitional authorities in East Timor, Cambodia, and elsewhere. (The obvious move would be to place a Muslim in charge, but one can imagine right-leaning lobbyists derailing that enterprise.) Only leading members of Saddam's regime would be subjected to war crimes trials, as would those military personnel who willingly obeyed Saddam's orders to deploy weapons of mass destruction. Otherwise, most bureaucrats would remain in place--de-Baathification efforts, it seems, will only go so far.
To address an ugly history of human rights violations, there is talk of having Iraq follow the South African model of a truth and reconciliation commission that would provide amnesty to all those who fully acknowledged their crimes. Whether or not Iraq can sustain the kind of civil society that, despite deep inequalities, makes South Africa's approach work reasonably well is an open question.
The key questions surround Iraq's oil wealth--How will it be used? And will an occupied Iraq remain a member in good standing of OPEC? There is an unambiguous commitment to using Iraq's oil wealth to finance Iraq's reconstruction, but the OPEC question has been left in the air. That any American administration would countenance any effort to maintain OPEC's stranglehold on oil supplies strikes me as bizarre, but there are diplomatic sensitivities to consider. More immediately, there's the obvious concern that Saddam will attempt to destroy his country's oil infrastructure on his way out. In the end, military planners can only hope to mitigate Saddam's capacity for wanton destructiveness.
Whatever the case, the fact that these questions are being debated so explicitly within the administration suggests Saddam may have overlooked an important detail amid his now-familiar delay-tactics: The United States is no longer operating according to a U.N. timetable, like the bad old days of the mid-1990s. It is operating according to its own timetable. No amount of bluster about North Korea is likely to change that.
Interesting piece by Ajami, who is squarely against allowing Saddam to leave for a comfy exile. His points are compelling:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/opinion/news_1ed19ajami.html
There should be no illusions about the sort of Arab landscape that America is destined to find if, or when, it embarks on a war against the Iraqi regime. There would be no hearts and minds to be won in the Arab world, no public diplomacy that would convince the overwhelming majority of Arabs that this war would be a just war.
An American expedition in the wake of thwarted United Nations inspections would be seen by the vast majority of Arabs as an imperial reach into their world, a favor to Israel or a way for the United States to secure control over Iraq's oil. No hearing would be given to the great foreign power.
America ought to be able to live with this distrust and discount a good deal of this anti-Americanism as the "road rage" of a thwarted Arab world – the congenital condition of a culture yet to take full responsibility for its self-inflicted wounds.
There is no need to pay excessive deference to the political pieties and givens of the region. Indeed, this is one of those settings where a reforming foreign power's simpler guidelines offer a better way than the region's age-old prohibitions and defects.
Above and beyond toppling the regime of Saddam Hussein and dismantling its deadly weapons, the driving motivation of a new American endeavor in Iraq and in neighboring Arab lands should be modernizing the Arab world. The great indulgence granted to the ways and phobias of Arabs has reaped a terrible harvest – for the Arabs themselves, and for an America implicated in their affairs. It is cruel and unfair but true: the fight between Arab rulers and insurgents is for now an American concern.
A successful war in Iraq would embolden those who wish for the Arab world deliverance from retrogression and political decay.
America's open backers will be Kuwait and Qatar – the first because of the trauma and violation it endured in 1990-91 at the hands of Iraq, the second because it has taken a generally assertive and novel approach in diplomacy as well as a willingness to associate openly with American power. In the main, however, the ruling order in the Arab world will duck for cover and hope to be spared.
Rather than Desert Storm, the Arab rulers will want the perfect storm: a swift war, few casualties, as little exposure by themselves as possible, and the opportunity to be rid of Saddam without riding in broad daylight with the Americans or being brought to account by their people.
Given the belligerence and self-pity in Arab life, its retreat from modernist culture, and its embrace of conspiracy theories, there are justifiable grounds for believing there are no native liberal or secular traditions to embrace the United States and use its victory to build an alternative to despotic rule. Few Arabs would believe this effort to be a Wilsonian campaign to spread the reign of liberty in the Arab world.
They are to be forgiven their doubts, for American power, either by design or by default, has been built on relationships with military rulers and monarchs without popular mandates. America has not known or trusted the middle classes and the professionals in these lands. Rather, it has settled for relationships of convenience with the autocracies in the saddle, tolerating the cultural and political malignancies of the Arab world. A new American role in the region will have to break with this history.
The solitude of the United States is more acute than it was during the Persian Gulf War in 1990-91. In that expedition, the three powers of consequence – Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia – were arrayed against Saddam Hussein.
But for the vast majority of Arabs, Operation Desert Storm was an Anglo-American campaign of hegemony. A predator had risen in the region and a great foreign power, the inheritor of Pax Britannica in the Persian Gulf, had checked his bid for hegemony.
Saddam had sacked a country, but there was an odd popular identification with him, and crowds saw him as the bearer of a lofty Arab endeavor. The gullible saw him as a Robin Hood, an avenging Saladin fighting "the Franks" and their local collaborators, erasing the colonial boundaries imposed after World War I.
It may be heretical to suggest it, but the Iraqi ruler would have won a free election among Arabs in 1990-91. The dynasties he was warring against were unloved in their world. From Amman to Nablus to Casablanca, the crowds gave their approval to the night of terror that he unleashed on the region. He was a revisionist at odds with the order around him, and in a thwarted world the bandit acts out the yearnings of subdued but resentful crowds.
No great Arab hopes are pinned on the Iraqi ruler this time around. This is the other side of the ledger, for the fickle crowd makes and breaks these kinds of attachments with brigands and false redeemers with great frequency. Saddam had lost his bid; he had treated a world steeped in defeats to yet another calamity. The crowd may shout itself hoarse against the Americans, but its bonds with the Iraqi ruler have been weakened.
For American power, there are two ways in the Arab world. One is restraint, pessimistic about the possibility of changing that stubborn world, reticent about the uses of American power. In this vision of things, the United States would either spare the Iraqi dictator or wage a war with limited political goals for Iraq and for the region as a whole.
The other choice, more ambitious, would envisage a more profound American role in Arab political life: the spearheading of a reformist project that seeks to modernize and transform the Arab landscape. Iraq would be the starting point, and beyond Iraq lies an Arab political and economic tradition and a culture whose agonies and failures have been on cruel display.
The case for war must rest in part on the kind of vision the United States has for Iraq. The dread of "nation-building" must be cast aside. It is too late in the annals of nations for outright foreign rule. But there will have to be a sustained American presence if the new order is to hold and take root.
Iraq is a society with substantial social capital and the region's second-largest reserves of oil. It has traditions of literacy, learning and technical competence. It can draw on the skills of a vast diaspora of means and sophistication, waves of people who fled the country's turbulent politics and the heavy hand of its rulers.
If Iraq's pain has been great in the modern era, so too, has been its betrayed promise. There were skills and hope that the polity could be made right, that the abundance of oil and water and the relative freedom from an overbearing religious tradition would pave the way toward modernity and development.
Iraq should not be burdened, however, with the weight of great expectations. This is the Arab world, after all, and Americans do not know it with such intimacy. Iraq could disappoint its American liberators. There has been heartbreak in Iraq, and vengeance and retribution could sour Americans on this latest sphere of influence in the Muslim world.
If and when it comes, that task of repairing – or detoxifying – Iraq will be a major undertaking. The remarkable rehabilitation of Japan between its surrender in 1945 and the restoration of its sovereignty in 1952 offers a historical precedent. In the space of a decade, imperial Japan gave way to a more egalitarian, modern society. A country poisoned by militarism emerged with a pacifist view of the world. It was the victors' justice that drove the new monumental undertaking and powered the twin goals of demilitarization and democratization. The victors tinkered with the media, the educational system and the textbooks.
Those are some of the things that will have to be done if a military campaign in Iraq is to redeem itself in the process. The theatrics and megalomania of Douglas MacArthur may belong to a bygone age, but Iraq could do worse than having the interim stewardship of a modern-day high commissioner who would help usher it toward a normal world.
A new American primacy in Iraq would play out under watchful eyes. There will be Arabs convinced that their world is being recolonized. There will be pan-Arabists sure that Iraq has been taken out of "Arab hands," given over to the minorities within, and made more vulnerable to Turkey and Iran, the two non-Arab powers nearby. There will be Europeans looking for cracks in the conduct of the distant great power.
The Arab world could whittle down, even devour, an American victory. This is a difficult, perhaps impossible, political landscape. It may reject the message of reform by dwelling on the sins of the American messenger. There are endless escapes available to that Arab world.
It can call up the fury of the Israeli-Palestinian violence and use it as an alibi for yet more self-pity and rage. It can shout down its own would-be reformers, write them off as accomplices of a foreign assault. It can throw up its defenses and wait for the United States to weary of its expedition. It is with sobering caution, then, that a war will have to be waged.
But it should be recognized that the Rubicon has been crossed. Any fallout of war is certain to be dwarfed by the terrible consequences of America's walking right up to the edge of war and then stepping back, letting the Iraqi dictator work out the terms of another reprieve.
It is the fate of great powers that provide order to do so against the background of a world that takes the protection while it bemoans the heavy hand of the protector. This new expedition to Mesopotamia would be no exception to that rule.
Ajami is Majid Khadduri Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the School for Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University. This opinion piece is adapted from the January/February 2003 issue of Foreign Affairs.
It would be nice to get some academic discussion on foreign policy going on this corner. There are many ideals of debate which one can ponder. Since I'm new to this thread, I'll try and find out if there is an agenda that is typically followed or whether is namely a "free for all" with topics of variety. Timely topics appear to be related to events in the Middle East and the war on terror. Future topics could include the WTO and China's accession. Will check back after I get a taste for the flavor on this thread.
Peace,
M&M Man
Please tell me you are a 5'8 brown-haired, blue-eyed female.
sung to the tune of:
Yasser, that's my Baby
Nasser, I don't mean maybe
Yasser, that's my Baby now.
sorry...
--fl
>>While I'm not familiar with your feature set<<
Please tell me you are a 5'8 brown-haired, blue-eyed female.
MB
MB,
Well excellent! I was going to drop you folks a note tomorrow. Thanks for the welcome, Matt. (no pun intended...)
FADG has been a very active board with some really terrific posters; almost 29,000 posts in seven months. I'd sure hate to see the whole environment, really the whole fellowship, disappear with the flick of a switch..
While I'm not familiar with your feature set, I'll poke around (I'm sure it is "intuitively obvious") :o)
Best regards,
--fl@thenewfadgonyourdial.com
Bethlehem deal may end church siege
By Harvey Morris and Avi Machlis in Jerusalem and Alan Beattie in Washington
Published: May 5 2002 21:29 / Last Updated: May 6 2002 00:23
Between seven and 15 Palestinians wanted by Israel will be deported to Italy under a deal to end the 34-day siege of the Nativity Church in Bethlehem, a senior Palestinian official inside the church said on Sunday night.
Mohamed Madani, Bethlehem governor, said by telephone that some 35 others would be transferred to Gaza and that Israel would allow the remaining 80 or so people inside the church to go free. As the stand-off neared its close on Sunday night, the two sides were still negotiating the exact number facing deportation or transfer.
Yassir Arafat's role in finding a peaceful solution to the crisis in the Middle East was on Sunday moved to the top of the diplomatic agenda as Israel stepped up its campaign to marginalise him. Ariel Sharon, Israeli prime minister, was flying to Washington on Sunday night with a dossier attacking Mr Arafat, prepared by Dani Naveh, a cabinet minister. Mr Sharon is expected to rely heavily on the report in his meetings with senior US officials in Washington this week and with President George W. Bush on Tuesday. Mr Naveh on Sunday released a 100-page report including documents seized during Israel's offensive in the West Bank last month, which he said proved Mr Arafat was "personally involved in directing terrorist activities" against Israelis.
But the US administration yesterday resisted pressure to back the Israeli position before this week's meetings. Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, said on Fox News that while Mr Arafat had been a poor leader and must reform, "we are not going to try to choose the leadership for the Palestinian people".
Colin Powell, US secretary of state, told ABC: "It serves us all better if we . . . recognise who the Palestinian people look to as their leader." Mr Powell also suggested peace in the Middle East would require action from Israel, citing the growing Israeli settlements in Palestinian areas as a problem which "is not going to go away".
Ahmed Maher, the Egyptian foreign minister, on Sunday became the first senior Arab official to meet Mr Arafat since Israel lifted its siege of his office compound in the West Bank town of Ramallah last week. "We are here declaring that we support President Arafat and the Palestinian people," Mr Maher said. Mr Sharon wants to persuade Mr Bush the Middle East peace conference being planned by Washington should not include Mr Arafat.
Meanwhile, Israeli forces in the West Bank killed a Palestinian woman and two children. The army said the incident was a mistake.
Arafat's role tops diplomatic agenda
By Avi Machlis in Jerusalem and Alan Beattie in Washington
Published: May 5 2002 20:51 / Last Updated: May 5 2002 21:36
Yassir Arafat's role in finding a peaceful solution to the crisis in the Middle East was on Sunday moved to the top of the diplomatic agenda as Egyptian leaders lined up behind the Palestinian leader and Israel stepped up its campaign to marginalise him.
Ahmed Maher, the Egyptian foreign minister, on Sunday became the first senior Arab official to meet Mr Arafat since Israel lifted its siege of his office compound in the West Bank town of Ramallah last week.
"We are here declaring that we support President Arafat and the Palestinian people in their mission to achieve their goals," Mr Maher said.
But as they met, Israeli officials pressed ahead with efforts to discredit Mr Arafat as a potential negotiating partner to end 19 months of bloodshed and revive peace talks.
Ariel Sharon, Israeli prime minister, was flying to Washington on Sunday night with a dossier attacking Mr Arafat, prepared by Dani Naveh, a cabinet minister.
Mr Naveh released a 100-page report including documents seized during Israel's military offensive in the West Bank last month, which he said proved Mr Arafat was "personally involved in directing terrorist activities" against Israelis.
Mr Sharon is expected to rely heavily on the report in his meetings with senior US officials in Washington this week and with President George W. Bush on Tuesday. Mr Sharon wants to persuade Mr Bush that the Middle East peace conference being planned by Washington should not include Mr Arafat - although official US policy remains that Mr Arafat is the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people.
Ariel Sharon will also meet administration officials including Colin Powell, the secretary of state, and Condoleezza Rice, national security adviser.
Ms Rice said yesterday that the US strategy of using friendly Arab states including Egypt and Jordan to put pressure on the Palestinians was beginning to have an effect.
But although declining to back the Israeli view that no peace deal was possible with Mr Arafat leading the Palestinians, she said that the Palestinian leadership had so far failed to create the circumstances which might lead to a Palestinian state.
Meanwhile, Israeli forces in the West Bank killed a Palestinian woman and two children when they opened fire after their tank was hit by aroadside bomb. The army said the incident was a mistake. The Israeli army also made an incursion into the West Bank town of Tulkarm at the weekend.
How about the neighbors up north...always there to help and defend, yet neglected!
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Softwood remarks draw anger
Liberals' inept handling of job losses
is insulting to unemployed, Alliance says
By SHAWN MCCARTHY
OTTAWA BUREAU CHIEF
Saturday, May 4, 2002 – Print Edition, Page A4
The Liberal government has sparked an outcry across the country for suggesting that no one has been hurt by the imposition of U.S. tariffs on softwood exports.
"Our company alone has had 2,000 people laid off, mostly because of the softwood lumber duty," said Rick Doman, chief executive of Doman Industries Ltd. in British Columbia.
Trade Minister Pierre Pettigrew and other Liberal ministers have said that there have been no direct job losses linked to the tariffs as yet. Prime Minister Jean Chrétien added fuel to the fire when he joked at a Montreal fundraiser this week that the tariffs were retribution for Canada's Olympic hockey win over the United States.
While his quip drew a laugh from the Liberal audience, others were not amused.
Canadian Alliance interim leader John Reynolds slammed the Liberals for failing to respond to the looming crisis and playing down its impact.
"It is insulting to every unemployed Canadian, their families, their children. This is a very serious issue and this government just doesn't seem to want to take it seriously," he said.
British Columbia Forest Minister Mike de Jong suggested that Mr. Pettigrew's comments could threaten the unified approach provinces such as British Columbia and Quebec have taken in dealing with the Canada-U.S. softwood dispute.
In Vancouver yesterday, Mr. de Jong said British Columbia stuck with Ottawa's approach on the assumption that if talks failed the federal government would be there to support people and communities hit by the duties.
"I don't think we as a country should be waiting until the last minute," he said. "I think workers, some of whom have been without paycheques for many, many months now, need to know that if these tariffs are being collected on May 23, that there is a package there for them. The time for action is now."
However, Mr. de Jong added that he remains confident the Liberal government does appreciate the gravity of the situation for communities that rely on lumber exports.
Meanwhile, Canadian companies are launching their own challenge to the U.S. countervail duties, in tandem with federal challenges at the World Trade Organization and under the North American free-trade agreement.
Doman Industries has launched a $513-million lawsuit under NAFTA to recover damages it claims to have suffered as a result of the duties. As well, Quebec forestry giant Tembec Inc. signalled its intent yesterday to file a similar $200-million lawsuit claiming that U.S. duties on Canadian lumber are a violation of several provisions in NAFTA.
In Ottawa, Human Resources Minister Jane Stewart said her department is "monitoring" the situation to determine whether the employment-insurance system needs to be adjusted to assist laid-off workers.
Environment Minister David Anderson, a senior B.C. minister, insisted yesterday that the Liberal government continues to look at ways to assist those who will be hurt by the duties.
But he said that not every job loss in the industry is related to the duties. In fact, he said, export volumes remain fairly high to the United States, as companies look to ship lumber into the United States before the duties take effect May 23. "There is a major restructuring going on in the Canadian industry. There are some companies in difficulty for reasons totally unconnected to the trade with the United States," Mr. Anderson said.
"So I think it is true to say that the problem has not yet hit in the way it is going to hit in the next few months if the countervail does result in a dramatic reduction in Canadian exports to the United States."
Paul Cellucci, the U.S. ambassador, played down talk of a trade war, saying problems with softwood lumber and agriculture amount to isolated cases in a much bigger and friendly relationship.
"We're not looking for a trade war -- we're looking to expand trade," Mr. Cellucci told CBC TV.
"When you have a trading relationship that is as big as ours, there are going to be bumps in the road at certain times."
I am Canadian.
I admire the USA.
The only problem with Foreign Affairs is that it ain't!!!
US Presidents don't really care about what goes on with events outside the USA, as those people don't vote!
The only problem with the capitalist system.
Even if Bush gets a little done, there has never been any consistency or follow up withe the presidency.
Not instigating, stating facts...
FL:
Welcome.
I was actually following the discussion over on SI about finding a home just in case SI/INSP goes belly up, where you guys would go. I saw some discussion about us and other sites.
I hope you guys make this your home/bomb shelter when SI pulls the plug.
Let me or Bob Z know if there is anything we can do to make you guys feel welcome.
MB
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From: FaultLine
Saturday, Sep 15, 2001 3:40 PM
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Welcome Friends,
The idea for a Foreign Affairs Discussion Group thread arose about two months ago but I've had it on the back burner since then. The catastrophe this week and the ensuing flood of foreign affairs posting activity has motivated me to get this thread launched.
I hope we can consolidate the discussions taking place on several threads especially in the face of the resumption of trading next week.
Very best regards,
FaultLine
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