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Re: Mr. Bill post# 12901

Monday, 07/07/2003 11:17:26 PM

Monday, July 07, 2003 11:17:26 PM

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OWHC. I missed 1.03M tightly held. Float appears to be 667K IMO

Here is how I typically determine the float. Many times I have found several sites and several different quoted "floats". Hence, I typically look at the SEC filings, at the 10K. IRs
typically refer to the trading float as what they consider to
be loosely trading shares. If they believe an investor holds
shares and is likely to not trade the shares because they have
held them along time they consider the shares "tightly held"
and do not include them in the float. Unless the shareholder
holds more than 5% of the OS they can be freely traded without
filing "144"s.
From the 10K the OS is 5.58M shares. This is the total number of outstanding shares. Then I look at the 10K for the shares
held by officers. There one has 4.12M shares, but, see note (7) which accompanies the figure. It says that 210K shares of
common B shares are included in the calculation as though these
special type of common shares were converted to normal common
shares. (there are only 210K common B shares total). The thing
here is they really don't count as part of the common 5.58M
shares. If you count the common B shares then the OS would be
5.58M + 210K. Hence 4.12M - .21 = 3.91M shares held by the
officers. The OS did not change between the 10K and the 10Q
nor is there any indication that officers acquired more shares.
Hence, 5.58M - 3.91M = 1.67M float.

Some folks hold more then 5% -- I missed that.
Agape has 550K. These matter.

P Walker has 41K shares, the rest are warrants that have not
been exercised to buy stock at a considerably higher price
than today. These shares don't really count.

Cheyenne Properties has 480K shares. These matter.

Hence 480K + 550K = 1.03M shares so 1.67M - 1.03M = 667K Float

Also, on 8/12/2002 Ocean West sold 300K shares and 3M warrants
for $13,000 or about .043 cents a share. In fact, the shares appear to have been sold at .01 cent per 424B1 filing. Further
it appears the shares are free trading with no restrictions. It
also appears the 88K warrants that were exercised is what made
the average price .043 cents. It looks like a total of 388K
shares were sold per the 424B1 filing. Looks like those 388K
shares sold on 8/12 inflated the float by 388K by themselves.

Here is a link to the SEC filings:
http://www.gonow.com/files.php?cik=1104538&st=2&alld=ON

Looking at the 424B1
Monogenesis will retain
the 18,100 shares and 181,000 warrants which were not distributed as well as the
88,800 shares acquired upon exercise of warrants as compensation for
distributing the shares and warrants to its shareholders. It expects to sell the
shares periodically and may also exercise or sell the warrants.

Monogenesis purchased the 300,000 shares at a price of $0.01 each and the
warrants, most of which are being distributed to its shareholders, at a price of
$0.001 each. On the date of this prospectus, Monogenesis exercised warrants to
purchase 88,800 shares of Ocean West.


Less Purchase
Shares From Price Paid by Total
Ocean West (1) Estimated Value (2) Monogenesis Estimated Value
-------------- ------------------- ------------- ---------------

388,800 Common Shares $234,058 $10,104 $223,954



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